they have been very focused on al jazeera america. they're not hiding from the name al jazeera, but executives say we're doing an american network for american viewers. there's still the perception issue that they have to get over. a lot of people the first time they heard the name al jazeera was after 9/11 with the bin laden videos. during the iraq war, bush administration officials were always saying that al jazeera is playing propaganda for the enemy. so they have to get over that. a couple years ago there was a study that showed people looked at al jazeera english content branded as cnn international and didn't think it was as biased as when they had the al jazeera logo on it so they have to get over that obstacle. >> i think the bias question is a good one. for either one of you i wonder is there any example of al jazeera somewhere else in the world where they are producing this kind of unbiased news? i know many other places in the world they have been accused of bias. in fact in egypt they were just shut down by security forces